IN CONVERSATION WITH MANDISI "DR DISI" SINDO
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TUESDAY EDITION | PROFILE/ INTERVIEW
“Your name shall be mentioned in the corridors of power.” - Dr Miz Mzwakhe Tancredi
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Why Mandisi “Dr Disi” Sindo, one may ask?
The answer is perhaps best captured in words echoed by Dr. Miz Mzwakhe Tancredi: “Your name shall be mentioned in the corridors of power.”
Mandisi “Dr Disi” Sindo represents a generation of cultural practitioners whose work speaks beyond stages and platforms — reaching into communities, institutions, and spaces where influence is shaped and decisions are made.
His journey, voice, and contribution continue to assert that culture is not peripheral, but central to how societies imagine themselves.
In this conversation, The Creative Passport engages Mandisi “Dr Disi” Sindo not to mythologise, but to listen — to understand the work, the thinking, and the responsibility that comes with purpose in the Cultural and Creative Industries.
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Can you briefly share your professional journey and how you found your way into the Cultural and Creative Industries?
As I reflect on my professional journey, I am filled with gratitude and awe, thanking God for the opportunity to express myself and share my story in the arts. My name is Mandisi Sindo, but many know me as Dr. Disi - a multifaceted artist who serves as an actor, director, curator, artivist, and cultural entrepreneur. My passion lies in using art as a tool for social change, and I'm humbled to be recognized for innovating Shack Theatres, a initiative that brings arts and culture to marginalized communities, townships, and rural areas of South Africa and beyond.
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My journey in the arts began in the late 1990s, during my primary school days. I was an active and curious learner, always eager to participate in traditional dance showcases and dramatic role-playing in class. But it was during my time in Mr. Gaju's class that I had a life-changing experience. A group of talented performers from Ikhwezi Theatre Company, including Zimasa May, the late Xolani Madesi, Themba Baleni, Samson Faleni, Bulelani Mvotho, and Sisi Nomapha, visited our school to showcase their play. I vividly remember their energetic performance, dressed in red costumes, portraying expressive and heightened characters. In that moment, I knew that this was what I wanted to do - I was captivated by the power of art and theatre.
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Growing up in the informal settlements of Khayelitsha, Site B, known as the TR section, I didn't have access to electricity, which made it difficult for me to watch television or experience live performances regularly. But that day, I saw my calling, and I witnessed myself in the bodies of the performers on stage. Our class was so inspired that we asked our teacher to bring the Ikhwezi Theatre Company back to mentor us. Fortunately, Zimasa May returned to guide us, nurturing our talents and helping us grow into the theatre makers, practitioners, and innovators we are today.
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From that moment on, I was hooked. I dedicated myself to performance, and over the past 27 years, I've had the privilege of working tirelessly without any major setbacks. I've experienced numerous victories, success stories, and battles, but my passion for the arts has remained unwavering. Through my journey, I've come to realize that art is not just a form of entertainment but a powerful tool for social change, community development, and personal growth.
Shack Theatre in Khayalelitsha, CT
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As I look back, I'm reminded of the importance of mentorship, guidance, and opportunities. I'm grateful for the role models who have shaped my path, and I'm committed to paying it forward by creating opportunities for others to engage with the arts. My work with Shack Theatres is a testament to this commitment, and I'm excited to see the impact it will continue to have in the years to come.
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Shack Theatre
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What key moments or decisions have shaped your career path and growth within the sector?
As I reflect on my journey, I realize that one of the most pivotal decisions that shaped me into the artist and innovator I am today was choosing to study theatre at a university level. This decision not only equipped me with the necessary knowledge and skills but also sparked a sense of curiosity and critical thinking. Being immersed in such an environment allowed me to analyze the creative and cultural industries in South Africa, particularly in the context of theatre. I began to notice the discourse, discrimination, and disparities that existed within the industry, and it was disheartening to see how these challenges affected black theatre makers.
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However, instead of being discouraged, I allowed these challenges to fuel my growth and shape my vision in the arts. This experience ultimately led to the conception of Shack Theatres, an innovation that aimed to bring arts and culture to marginalized communities, townships, and rural areas. Through this initiative, I've been able to create spaces for practice, nurture talent, and provide opportunities for black artists and theatre practitioners to thrive.
My journey has not been without its challenges, but it's been incredibly rewarding. When I started, I saw a lack of dedicated spaces for arts and culture in the margins. Community halls, crèches, churches, and non-artistic spaces were often used for practices and events, but these were often driven by universities and organizations attached to them. While it was exciting to see these organizations bringing arts to the townships, I couldn't help but wonder what would happen if they stopped coming. Would the arts disappear from our doorsteps?
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It was in 2004, when I was part of the Ikhwezi Theatre Festival with The Color of Calabash, that I believe my career was truly established. Performing at the Baxter Theatre Centre was a dream come true – the fully furnished theatre space with lights, sounds, and all the aesthetics I had dreamed of was a revelation. But what made that moment even more special was the impact it had on my family. After our performances, we were blessed with R1400 each, which was a substantial amount for me and my family at the time. For my mother, a domestic worker who struggled to make ends meet, this was proof that the arts could be a viable and rewarding career path.
Image: Mandisi Sindo with Zimasa May
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That moment changed everything for us. My mother's support and encouragement gave me the confidence to pursue my passion, and I was motivated to work even harder. The experience not only validated my talent but also showed me that with dedication and hard work, I could make a living from my craft. It was a turning point in my journey, and I'm grateful for the opportunity to share my story and inspire others to pursue their passions.
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How has your education, training, or lived experience prepared you for the work you do today?
A wise man, Dr. Miz Mzwakhe Tancredi, once said, "The more you know, the more you function. And the less you know, the less you function." These words resonate deeply with me, and I've come to realize that knowledge is indeed the key to unlocking our potential and preparing us for a brighter future. I recall the countless hours I spent walking from Khayelitsha to Woodstock every Saturday, driven by an insatiable thirst for knowledge. Alongside my director, Zimasa May, and fellow artists, we would attend workshops and training sessions, eager to learn and grow. These sessions, facilitated by Magnet Theatre and the University of Cape Town's Community Group Intervention program, were instrumental in shaping my understanding of theatre and the creative arts.
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The guidance of mentors like Mandla Mbothwe and the late Mluleki Sam was invaluable. They played a significant role in helping us access the information we needed to succeed, and their expertise helped us navigate the complexities of the industry. Their passion and dedication to nurturing young talent were inspiring, and I'm grateful for the impact they had on my life.
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Fast-forward to 2009, I was privileged to be accepted into the University of Cape Town's theatre program. It was a dream come true, and I knew that this opportunity would change the trajectory of my life. The journey was not without its challenges, though. From the audition process to the rigorous academic demands, I had to push myself to the limit. But I was determined to make the most of it. As a young man from Cofimvaba and Khayelitsha, I knew that I was breaking barriers and paving the way for others to follow.
My time at UCT was a transformative experience that not only equipped me with the necessary skills but also broadened my perspective and understanding of the world. I was exposed to a Eurocentric environment that challenged my own cultural identity, but it also taught me the importance of adaptability and resilience. I learned to navigate different worlds and to find my place within them.
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Today, I'm proud to say that I'm a generational curse breaker. I'm the first in my family to attend university, to travel to over 15 countries, and to work in various streams such as theatre, TV, and newspapers. My journey is a testament to the power of hard work, determination, and the support of loved ones. But above all, I believe that God has been the guiding force behind my success. He's prepared this journey for me, and I trust that He knows exactly what I'll become.
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What challenges have you encountered in your journey, and how have they influenced your approach to your craft or practice?
Life is not a rehearsal, and it's certainly not without its challenges. Throughout my journey in the arts, I've faced numerous obstacles that have tested my resolve and pushed me to grow. From the early days of primary school, when over 70 of us would vie for roles in our school plays, I knew that this industry was not for the faint of heart. Everyone wanted to be a star, to play the lead role, and to be seen. But I quickly realized that this industry requires strong leadership qualities, a thick skin, and the ability to take risks.
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As I navigated the ups and downs of my career, I encountered many challenges. There were times when I was forced to take a backseat, despite knowing that I was meant to lead. There were times when I felt like giving up, when the rejection and disappointment seemed too much to bear. But I never lost sight of my passion for the arts, and I knew that this was my future, not anyone else's.
Image: Mandisi Sindo & Abongile Kroza
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When we with Zimasa May co-founded Iselwa Lesizwe Theatre Company with my late friend Abongile Kroza, we faced a new set of challenges. We had to share a small, cramped room with Ikhwezi Theatre Company at Site B Community Hall, and we often had to rehearse under difficult conditions. There were times when we'd be thrown out of the space due to other events, and we'd have to rehearse under the tree, in the cold or rain. But these challenges only fueled my determination to succeed.
As I reflect on those experiences, I realize that they shaped me into the artist and innovator I am today. The difficulties I faced made me angry, but they also made me more determined to create change. I began to question the accessibility of creative art spaces in the townships, and I knew that I had to do something about it. That's when the idea for Shack Theatre Innovation was born.
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Shack Theatre Innovation was all about creating accessible spaces for artists to practice their craft without struggling. I never imagined that this innovation would lead to the creation of multiple shack theatres, including KASI RC Khayelitsha Arts School and Rehabilitation Center, Dimbaza Shack Theatre, and others. But I'm thrilled to see how this concept has taken off, and I'm proud to see other emerging spaces being created in the image of my innovation. There are other exiting spaces now such as Kraai4Theatre, Azande Theatre, Swellendam Theatre, Dimbaza Shack Theatre etc.
As someone who makes trends rather than following them, I'm always looking for new ways to push the boundaries of what's possible. I'm currently working on a new concept that focuses on decolonizing theatre norms and creating alternative art spaces in the margins. It's exciting to see how this work will continue to evolve and impact the arts community.
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In your view, how has the Cultural and Creative Industries landscape in South Africa evolved over the years?
Yes, in many different angles and ways, our journey in the arts has been a transformative one. When we started, we had a limited understanding of what theatre was and who it was for. We thought it was a domain reserved for others, that it was a Western concept that didn't belong to us. We thought theatre was for and by white people, and that our stories and experiences weren't worthy of being told.
But as we delved deeper into the world of theatre, we began to grasp the rich history and heritage of storytelling in our own communities. We discovered that black people have always been the initiators of storytelling, through indigenous practices like Intsomi, which have been passed down through generations. We realized that our stories, our cultures, and our experiences were worth telling, and that we had the power to take ownership of them.
This newfound understanding helped us to reclaim our place in the arts, and to assert our identities as black theatre makers, practitioners, directors, and producers. We're proud to see a new generation of black artists emerging, taking back what's rightfully theirs, and pushing the boundaries of what's possible. It's been a long and difficult journey, but we're heartened by the progress we've made.
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However, we know that there's still much work to be done. The policies and laws that govern our industry are often exclusive, favoring those who have been in positions of power for far too long. They're designed to maintain the status quo, rather than to promote inclusivity, accessibility, and accountability.
But we're not deterred. We're working to change the narrative, to create a more inclusive and equitable industry that reflects the diversity of our country and our people.
We're seeing changes and actions emerge, slowly but surely. More and more black artists are getting the opportunities they deserve, and our stories are being told in ways that are authentic and meaningful. But we know that this is just the beginning. We need to continue pushing for change, for inclusivity, and for accountability.
We need to work together to redesign the laws and rules that govern our industry, to ensure that they're fair and equitable for all. It's a challenge we're willing to take on, because we know that the arts have the power to transform lives, to build communities, and to bring about social change.
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What gaps or opportunities do you believe still exist within the sector, particularly for emerging practitioners?
The issue of access to spaces for artistic practice remains a significant challenge in our country. Despite the importance of arts and culture in shaping our identity and promoting social cohesion, it appears that the government and the Department of Sports, Arts and Culture are not prioritizing this need.
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The department's decision to no longer provide funding for infrastructure is a major concern, and the lack of communication on implementing and building artistic and/or theatre spaces in South African townships and communities is disheartening.
As someone who has been advocating for the Shack Theatre Initiative, I have sent emails trying to get the opportunity to engage with the new Minister, Honorable Gayton McKenzie, and propose ways in which the department can support this innovation. The idea is to work together to implement 100 Shack Theatres in different townships, communities, and rural areas across the country, including schools, to provide students with access to arts education and potential employment opportunities for art graduates as teachers.
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Imagine the impact it could have if 50% of primary and high schools had artistic spaces implemented on their premises, similar to soccer fields and swimming pools.
However, the reality is that youth, emerging practitioners, and upcoming creatives lack opportunities, employment, and platforms to showcase their talents.
Government entities need to provide these platforms, but it's challenging when institutions are staffed with individuals who are not artistically driven and are more interested in perpetuating corruption.
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Many opportunities that existed in communities have died due to funding issues and lack of support. Festivals that cater to black practitioners are still struggling to provide financial benefits, and artists and directors are often expected to fight over door takings while theatre institutions suffer from low audience turnout.
While there have been programs like Emerging Directors that have introduced new talent to the industry, they have been marred by cronyism and favoritism. What's needed is a systematic approach to nurturing emerging talents, practitioners, and innovators who are bringing fresh ideas to the cultural and creative industries.
Many practitioners have ideas but don't know where to take them, and government entities need to establish offices that can provide support and guidance.
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Furthermore, the enforcement of Tourism Art & Performance (TAP) regulations could be a game-changer for art practitioners, allowing them to make money and expose their art to international visitors and producers.
It's astonishing that agencies like the National Arts Council (NAC), National Film and Video Foundation (NFVF), and National Heritage Council (NHC) don't have offices specifically dedicated to exposing South African art to the international market.
By providing these opportunities, we can unlock the potential of our creative industries and contribute to the growth and development of our country.
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How important is institutional support, policy, and funding in sustaining creative work in South Africa?
It's paramount that policies governing the cultural and creative industry are crafted with a deep understanding of the work being done by practitioners at all levels. Unfortunately, current policies often fail to address the needs of grassroots artists, instead catering to the interests of those already entrenched in the system. Policy makers and developers, many of whom are corrupt and exploitative, hinder progress and perpetuate inequality.
The South African cultural and creative industry is plagued by intense competition, with established players often working against emerging talent. This toxic environment fosters gatekeeping, hatred, and even accusations of witchcraft.
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Furthermore, funding remains a significant challenge, with mainstream institutions and entities often inaccessible to many. Nepotism, cronyism, and favoritism are rampant, with undeserving individuals being appointed or funded based on personal connections rather than merit.
This misallocation of resources is a form of theft, corruption, and cronyism that undermines the integrity of the industry. The same individuals and organizations continue to receive funding year after year, often due to their connections with internal panelists, adjudicators, and council members. This creates a system of quid pro quo, where favors are exchanged and benefits are shared among those with established relationships.
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To rectify this situation, strict rules, procedures, and rigid guidelines must be implemented to govern the distribution of funds in the cultural and creative industries. This could include measures such as transparent funding allocation which ensures that funding decisions are made in a fair and transparent manner, with clear criteria and evaluation processes. Merit-based evaluation which in assessing applications based on merit, rather than personal connections or relationships.
Another ways would be to establish mechanisms to hold funding agencies and decision-makers accountable for their actions. Funding entities need to ensure that the interests of grassroots artists and emerging talent are represented in policy-making processes.
By implementing these measures, we can create a more equitable and sustainable cultural and creative industry that supports the growth and development of all practitioners, regardless of their background or connections.
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What role do you think arts journalism and media platforms play in shaping public understanding of the creative sector?
The growth of cultural and creative arts can be significantly bolstered by pure and truthful journalism. Journalists who specialize in critiquing and reviewing artistic content, events, festivals, and practitioners play a crucial role in exposing exceptional talent and holding the industry to high standards. However, the media landscape has evolved, and traditional journalism has been somewhat eclipsed by the rise of influencer marketing.
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In today's digital age, social media has become a powerful tool for promoting and exposing the arts. Platforms like Instagram, YouTube, and TikTok have democratized content creation, allowing artists to reach a global audience. Nevertheless, there is a pressing need to harness the potential of digitalization to further amplify the arts. By embracing digital platforms, artists and cultural institutions can increase their online presence, reach new audiences, and provide innovative content that showcases their talents.
The benefits of digitalization are numerous. For instance, digital platforms can make the arts more accessible to people worldwide, creating new opportunities for artists to showcase their work. Digitalization can also enable new business models, such as online performances, workshops, and merchandise sales. Moreover, digital platforms can facilitate innovative storytelling and artistic expression, allowing artists to experiment with new forms and formats.
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The future of the arts is likely to be shaped by digital technologies. Digital theatre, for example, can revolutionize the way we experience live performances, making them more immersive and interactive.
Music streaming platforms have already transformed the music industry, providing artists with new ways to reach audiences.
Digital poetry and virtual exhibitions are also becoming increasingly popular, offering new ways for artists to share their work and connect with audiences. By embracing digitalization, the arts can reach new heights, and artists can connect with audiences in innovative and meaningful ways.
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What advice would you give to young or emerging practitioners navigating the industry today?
To all the emerging artists out there, I want to leave you with a message that has guided me throughout my own journey. Follow your instincts and do what's best for your craft. It's easy to get caught up in the noise of what others think you should be doing, but at the end of the day, it's your art that needs to resonate with you.
Remember that in the arts, nothing works until work. There are no shortcuts, no magic formulas, and no guarantees of success. What sets successful artists apart is their willingness to put in the time and effort required to hone their craft. So, don't wait for opportunities to come to you - create your own. Be proactive, stay focused, and keep working on your art every day.
It's also important to practice what you preach and have a fundamental desire to create art that is true to who you are. Don't try to be everywhere at once, because in the end, you'll end up nowhere. Instead, focus on your craft, and let your work speak for itself.
Image: Mandisi Sindo & Liso Sindo
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As you navigate the ups and downs of your artistic journey, remember to be humble and thankful to those who give you opportunities. Appreciate the people who have helped you along the way, and don't forget to thank your destiny helpers - those individuals who have played a significant role in your growth and success.
In the arts, it's often the last person you've worked with who recommends you to others. That's why it's crucial to treat people with respect and kindness, even when you're not in the same room. No man is an island in the arts, and you'll always need someone else to help you achieve your goals.
So, I urge you to make trends, don't follow them. Be innovative, take risks, and don't be afraid to try new things. Don't stop writing, creating, and pushing the boundaries of what's possible. Your unique voice and perspective are needed in the world, and with hard work, dedication, and a willingness to take risks, you can achieve great things.
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Looking ahead, what is your vision for the future of the Cultural and Creative Industries in South Africa?
My vision is to expand the Shack Theatre initiative, establishing more venues in townships and rural areas where young artists can hone their craft and showcase their talents. By providing accessible spaces for arts practice, I aim to empower the next generation of creatives and foster a love for the arts that can transform lives.
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Ultimately, my goal is to become a funder for the arts, supporting underprivileged and marginalized cultural and creative industries practitioners who face barriers to pursuing their passions. I believe that everyone deserves the opportunity to express themselves through art, regardless of their background or circumstances.
By providing financial support and resources, I hope to enable emerging artists to realize their full potential and make meaningful contributions to the arts.
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For me, helping those who can't help themselves is not just a noble cause – it's a calling. I'm driven by a deep sense of responsibility to use my platform and resources to make a positive impact on the lives of others.
Through my work, I hope to inspire a new generation of artists, thinkers, and creatives who will shape the future of our world.
I want to leave the lasting legacy for the next generations and be remembered even when I have ascended to the spiritual realm.
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